How Much Is Too Much For Fans?

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by Matt Reitz on March 11, 2010

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Over the weekend I had the pleasure of catching a game between the Canadiens and Kings at Staples Center. Going into the game, I had every intention of watching the French-Canadian fans that flocked to see the Bleu Blanc et Rouge. I planned on talking about how different the atmosphere is for an Original Six team on Hockey Night in Canada and the average weekend game. Unfortunately, the game didn’t go as planned.

On any level, the game was a complete and utter train wreck for anyone NOT rooting for the Habs. I’m not sure if the Kings played a poor game or the Canadiens played an effective road game, but the better team certainly won on that particular night. Instead of the actual game, the much more memorable part was a few obnoxious fans sitting a few rows behind me. Over the course of the evening, they managed to say more words without actually saying anything than I’ve ever heard in my life. Worse yet, they managed to basically YELL back and forth to each other throughout the entire two and a half hours of the game. By the middle of the 3rd period, EVERYONE’S patience had worn thin.

We’ve all dealt with that fan before. You know the guy that has had a few too many cocktails before the game—and just keeps on drinking? The guy that should have been cut-off by the concessioners before he was given his 17th Bud Light? The guy that is stumbling ON HIS WAY to his seats? Yeah, we all know “that guy.”

I'm NOT suggesting this.

Just like we all know “that guy,” chances are we’ve been dangerously close to BEING that guy for night. In the past, I’ve shared seats with a guy that regularly brought in a bottle of rum to go with his Coke. There have been games when I’ve had more than one beer while enjoying a game and I’ve even had a few drinks BEFORE I went. But then again, I’ve also watched plenty of games with a giant, overpriced soda.

My question is simple: Is it OK for a fan to act like that? He was passionately cheering his team when they scored. He LOUDLY chanted the opposing goaltender’s name (albeit with poor timing) after the Kings scored a goal. He tried to start the “Go Kings Go” chant numerous times. And at the end of the day, he paid for his ticket like everyone else.

But at some point, does the price of admission only buy you so many rights? During his obnoxious vocal exhibition, he managed to annoy people in all corners of the section. I did a fairly decent job of tuning the guy out, but the guy behind me wasn’t as successful. In the middle of the 3rd period, we were this close to catching our own little middleweight bout during a commercial break. Let’s just put it this way: the guy behind me looked exactly like the drill sergeant from Celebrity Fit Club. Who would you put your money on?

Aside from the drill sergeant look-alike, he was pissing off the season ticket holders sitting in front of me that kept looking back, the guy that brought his two kids that was visibly uncomfortable, the people next to me, and their nachos. Yes, even their nachos were annoyed.

As it got progressively worse throughout the game, the fan who was sitting directly in front of him got an usher to do something about the vocal fan. In response, I heard him scream: “I’m cheering for my team! I’m allowed to cheer for my team!” It was a textbook case of the old saying, “It’s not what you say; it’s how you say it.”

I know at some point this devolves into a little bit of a freedom of speech debate. Technically, the only thing that he was doing wrong was being annoying. If there was a law that banned obnoxious people, then Mike Milbury would have been locked-up years ago. We’re talking life sentence here people.

But there’s also the common courtesy debate. It’s like the drunken guy that is pushing into you at a concert and says, “I’m just trying to have a good time man.” Like me being in his way when he’s a stumbling drunk is impeding his good time. At some point, can we just say back to them, “I’m just trying to have a good time too?”

Today, I want to ask everyone this question. Whose side do you take here? Do you take the side of the fan that is annoying everyone else (but isn’t violent and paid for his ticket like everyone else)? Or do you take the side of the fan that is watching the game, paid for his ticket and has someone screaming in his ear?

Matt Reitz

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Matt Reitz is an NHL Writer for ProHockeyTalk on NBCSports and the Editor-In-Chief here at ViewFromMySeats.com. When he's not shoving a mic in the face of NHLers or explaining why home teams should wear white, he's usually trying to figure out what song to play next on his iPod. It's a never-ending job.


  • Zachary Beck

    A persons freedom only goes so far. When it begins to infringe on another persons happiness and rights, then it's gone too far. People need to have self control and be respectful to other people.

  • buds09

    Like Laughs 2 Loud said, I think the biggest problem in Dallas is not the drunken moron behind you, it's the uninformed fans who like to yell at the team for no apparent reason. It's also the Detroit fans (aka the Red Army) who come into the Arena like they own the place.

    There is a woman who sits in my section who comes to the games alone and she is flat out obnoxious. She would yell things that made no sense, she's one of those who consistently yell at the team to shoot while they are on the PP. She felt they have to shoot the second they cross the blue line. She was an angry angry woman who found fault in everything the home team did, even when they were winning! She kind of floated seats throughout the season and late last season she wound up right behind me. I tolerated her crap for 2 and a half periods, but after developing a headache and going deaf in one ear, I finally turned to her and yelled at her (I can't recall what I said). She was quiet the remainder of the game and every time I've seen her this season, she's relatively calm. Maybe she realized how obnoxious she was.

    I often tell my fiance that I hope one day I am rich enough to afford my own suite where I can sit at the game with select friends who I know aren't going to be obnoxious and just enjoy instead of having to listen to some rambling moron who doesn't know the difference between offsides and icing.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Keith-Korneluk/543036253 Keith Korneluk

    In some parallel universe, I'm sure that guy was a barrel of laughs. Some people also need to learn how to tolerate their cocktail of choice without being a giant ass.

    But, you know what, I was probably that guy five years ago when I first bought season tickets for the Kings. The excitement of being at a game, the fifteen dollar cocktails flowing might have been a bit much for me and my more than gracious neighbors. But I learned. Maybe that guy will too.

    I don't take a side here really. It sucks that you were subjected to that kind of experience while you were trying to watch your favorite team on the ice. Hopefully the guy that acted like a giant douche will learn too.

  • Shawn

    I have season tickets to the Edmonton Oilers and I've actually gone to the team and changed sections to get away from a mini pack ticket holder who was uninformed and obnoxious. He knew just enough about hockey to be annoying and loudly criticized the home team every game. He once spent 5 minutes screaming about Craig McTavish's incompetence because the team wasn't attacking until several of us had to point out we were short handed.

    I couldn't agree with you more, yes -tickets are expensive and yes -people enjoy events in different ways and yes -you're just cheering for your team but for god's sake, I'm trying to enjoy it too…

    • http://www.viewfrommyseats.com/ Matt Reitz

      Thats part of the problem that we were talking about after the game. I seriously wonder if the biggest problem was him wasnt the volume, but the acutal things he said. Would it have been OK if he was actually informed or funny? Probably not, but it would have been more entertaining :)

  • Laughs 2 Loud

    We have partial season tickets for the Stars and get to see a lot of opposing teams' obnoxious fans. Frequently, you can't really blame it on alcohol, they are just obnoxious. I don't understand why they think it is ok to come into a team's home arena and barrage the local fans with a continuous tirade against the home team. Why does one guy get to have a good time at the expense of everyone else in the section? At our last game against Detroit, one guy was over the top. I had finally had enough and smarted off back at him. He actually shut up for a while. I think he was stunned that of all the people there it was a middle-aged frumpy mom that had finally talked back to him. So middle-aged frumpy moms unit!!! When he did start up again, everyone started telling him to shut up.

    • http://www.viewfrommyseats.com/ Matt Reitz

      I love the thought that the middle-aged frumpy moms could be the answer to the problem!! :-D

  • Sam

    The problem isn't so much a right and wrong debate. Everyone knows being obnoxious and annoying 60 people is wrong. However, you can't express it and you can't define it so you can't litigate it. People at the concession need to cut people off at the right time, just like a bartender but its not going to happen. Its just a battle that's not going to be won.

  • chriswassel

    The strange thing is Devils-Rangers game are always like this. Its even more comical when people they know are sitting 10 sections over. Shouting to them while a game is going on will not get their attention. They probably could use their cell phones :P That being said, there is a line that gets crossed all too frequently and in the section above me there were at least 2 fights last night. It saddens me people would waste 8 and 9 dollar beer and yet they do. Good game though.

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